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To those who say aviation is dead. Not. Every day people look up to see aircraft pass overhead and wonder! Could I do that or that would be cool to work on!
The airline business has since the 50s been a tough haul. Nwa had multiple crashes in the 50s with the martin 404. They almost went under!
North central had to sell a dc-3 and lease back to make payroll!
I was fortunate to get in 26 years. (republic and nwa )
After the air force, 1966-1970 on c-130s. I was going to get my a and p and set the world on fire. So I headed to tulsa ok and spartan. In my class in aug 1971 were two American airline mechs. They both worked in the instrument shop at aa huge overhaul base. 2nd shift. We asked why they were going to spartan. Their response was they were after the a license to get the 15 cents premium. AA only paid what license was used. These mech would then be making 6.30 and hour. That was big money in 1971.
It was at spartan that I heard of amfa. My mag class instructor told use we were his last class. He told use he had been hired by ozark airlines and would be moving to st louis. Amfa was the mech union and that he would be making close to 7.00 an hour. All of use thought we were on our way to the big dollars.
In jan 1973, on graduation day a new up start small package carrier called federal express talked to us. They were looking for some mechs. The pay would be around 3.30 an hour. Reality begin to set in. Unless you worked for an airline your earnings would be bleak.
So here we are today, the wiz kids continue to show they don't know jack about the airline biz! The small jets were going to take the airlines to the promised land! One thing is certain the airlines will always be easy pickings for lawyers and crooks and the hell with the employees
Lets bring back the convair!

Submission date ~ 09-4-2010

"The Walrus Face" POS. Ahole buddy of Chris Johnson. Did I leave anything out..Oh yes a SCAB!


Submission date ~ 09-4-2010

As you cowardly, backstabbing, pussy ass, Judas loving betrayers enter church today, you all need to remember that your destiny has already been foretold in the holy Bible, "GOD DAMNS ALL SCABS TO HELL!"


Submission date ~ 09-4-2010

Mike Cilibrasi is no Muslim, he's Italiano. He never crossed his own picket line like some say. He had never been on a picket line to cross, he was one of the first to cross OUR picket lines. Cilibrasi walked the Italian march, like some WWII guys call the Italian salute, hands held high in the air in surrender on the first day. A born scab, it only took a test of fortitude and character to bring him OUT!

Submission date ~ 09-4-2010

The economics are awful, especially in a time of high fuel prices, Aboulafia said. It makes sense if you're focused on market share, hub preservation and other really outmoded concepts. But if you're focused on profitability, then 50-seats begin to look awful.

Comair President John Bendoraitis told employees in a memo this week the Cincinnati-based carrier needed to dramatically change course with steps that include chopping the fleet to 44 planes by 2012. Before cuts in the 2008 recession, the total was 131. Comair's oldest CRJ-100s average 14 years old, according to Ascend Worldwide Ltd., adding to maintenance expenses.

So Dr. John is finally learning what REAL MECHANICS already knew. The tiny little jets cost to much and you need too many. And when the jet start getting old they need maintenance just like all other aircraft. But now because you have so many little jets, you need lots of mechanics. Wow factor... Dr. John and his know nothing cohorts drove the wage of A&P mechs so low, they now can't find mechs nor can they afford the amount needed. One thing every A&P learned in Aircraft Maintenance 101 is jets are not fuel efficient until they reach high altitude. So the wiz kids start flying little jets like a hunter shooting his gun straight up into the air. Big arks never hitting their target. So why did they wiz kids do it? Because the flying public... who also knows nothing about aviation... didn't like flying on old fashion prop driven aircraft ! The wiz kids packaged their product to sell no different than any other department store or fast food joint. Only problem... is when you buy from an airline the only thing you get to take home is a ticket stub. If the wiz kids really knew their job, they would have left public opinion out of it focused on fuel efficiency, topnotch maintenance, and improved reliability. Proof in the Krispy Kream is.... if you don't know what you doing in aviation...! stay out of the hangar !!

Submission date ~ 09-4-2010

Life must be great for 4 foot tall managers in DTW. It was good to see your resume, once again, fall off my desk. Please continue applying though, I need the entertainment.
We won't hire SCABS. They lack the moral fiber needed, to be trusted within a close knit group.


Submission date ~ 09-4-2010

Now that I see the pic. I worked with this bag of shidt in DTW. No surprise he's a SCAB. He married this short fat ticket agent, she divorced him for being a "bag of shidt".

Submission date ~ 09-4-2010

Shut the f**k up and get to work!


Submission date ~ 09-3-2010

Don't believe me? Read this website.


Submission date ~ 09-3-2010

what's a scab union to do. all of their contracts are up at the end of this year. can't strike with a scab work force. this time delta won't have to hire any new ones. "Do on to others as you would have others do onto you".


Submission date ~ 09-3-2010

"Is Cilibrasi a muslim?"

What's your point?

Submission date ~ 09-3-2010

Where did this jackoff come from?


Submission date ~ 09-3-2010

King Dick Andersons Delta is dumping its regional airlines and reducing fleet sizes. First Mesaba, Compass and now Deltas Comair. Looks like these ex 2 plus possibly 3 Delta partners will have no more need to share their ivory up north tower. Pinnacle management now runs Mesaba and Interstate management now runs Compass. Delta will also reduce Comairs fleet by more then half then probably sell off Comair to Skywest or Pinnacle etc. Dr Benover it ass -little dick is once again ASS sis ting in parting out another airline just like he did at NWA! THE DR is once AGAIN putting a spin on COMAIR employees just to try and soften the blow just like he did during our meetings with him at NWA in 2005. The bastard lied through his teeth saying that some of the jobs would return. DR JOHN Ben or Ite ASS knew that NWA had a big plan to permanently replace the Mechanics! SO Comair Mechanics I hope that many of you are already brushing off your resumes or have trained in another industry ass sxit hits the fan! I am sure Dr John Bendo-little Dick Anderson has big plans for a shuffle back into Deltas executive ranks! or Will King Dick with the 500 mph Brylcream hair give him the shaft?


Submission date ~ 09-3-2010

Have a friend working there. Word is that they'll probably fare better now that they've been cut loose from delta. Pinnacle needed the aircraft to expand with other carriers like continental airlines. That airline if the merger with united goes through should be a player. Also Pinnacle can now go out and drum up business. Personally I think there is going to be more buy-outs in the regionals and maybe skywest will make an offer on pinnacle. Who knows. Anyways, my friend says the mesaba people are like most regional workers these days, some have already left for other jobs, some are getting ready to leave, and some are just going to see what happens.


Submission date ~ 09-3-2010

Scab Marquez.....Have you stolen any ones wife lately? Like you did in MSP before you moved out to DTW. Your a POS SCAB LOW LIFE! 1st for stealing the poor guys wife and then for becoming a SCAB. Thanks A$$Hole.

Submission date ~ 09-3-2010

While at the fair the other day I saw Scab Madani's mistress, it was the IAM's lovely Mary Samsom. I don't know who is uglier or fatter, you two belong together!!

Submission date ~ 09-3-2010

subject ~ Dave Marquez SCAB
message ~
A true SCAB among SCABS. The stories we could tell. My favorite is, pulling a diesel push tug (green cap) , up to a gasoline pump (red cap?) , and topping of the radiator."

I don't know how these guys going back to work for the "Delta" can keep their composure if they run into this "joke" one day... Wasn't he doing something in the mens john at the old F gates one day?


Submission date ~ 09-3-2010

"Comair President John Bendoraitis told employees in a memo this week..."

Submission date ~ 09-3-2010

People handle stress differently which in some cases can cause depression. We all went through a lot of stress. Things worked out better for some than it did for others. Don't be afraid to ask for professional help to help you through this stressful time in your life. Good luck and I wish you the best...

Submission date ~ 09-3-2010

Eat sh*t sh*teater


Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

I tell you people, these exnorthwest airlines executives know only one thing, how to wreck workers lives! They are all failures and companies still hire these a-holes. Really, what has king dick accomplished in his time with various companies? Wreck a company and get rich that's all. Bend-over-itis is going to do the same with the comair.
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100901/BIZ01/9020330/1076/BIZ/Comair-s-brand-diminished-over-time

Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

subject ~ Dave Marquez SCAB
message ~
A true SCAB among SCABS. The stories we could tell. My favorite is, pulling a diesel push tug (green cap) , up to a gasoline pump (red cap?) , and topping of the radiator."

I don't know how these guys going back to work for the "Delta" can keep their composure if they run into this "joke" one day... Wasn't he doing something in the mens john at the old F gates one day?


Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

Is Cilibrasi a muslim?


Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

Who is Dave Murphy?

Just some piece of white trash from Michigan who talked tough (note the fist pump) then slinked across his own picket line like a coward and traitor. Last year I saw it and it just got fat and gray. The dream life of a traitor scab. No honor or integrity.     444


Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

To this day I can't see how a person could work along side their friends for years, turn scab, and still consider themselves a man. I guess that is the TRUE mark of a scab.

Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

Take a look at the scab pics. Not a whole lotta intellect there, and they knew it.


Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

Who is Dave Murphy?


Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

Of those names on today's list, YOUR picture should have been displayed. You were one of the 1st day scabs. Do you still walk around head hung down pissed off about something, bitching? Your scab picture shows you for what you are and always were, a disgustingly fat dumpy low class unclean looking individual that never saved two nickels to rub together. I remember when you bragged about being a one time Panama City pimp. It came as no surprise to those of us who knew you that you would scab. You just didn't have what it took to stand with honorable men. So you are now a Delta tech. That's such a joke. (on Delta) A few years ago you would not have gotten past the employment office lobby at Delta. You are a human POS and you always will be.

Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

History will repeat itself. Look who's running the show if you want to see your bleak futures!
Read on:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/09/business/citing-sars-northwest-invokes-clause-to-allow-layoffs.html

http://www.allbusiness.com/operations/shipping-air-freight/393331-1.html

For those of you wanting to get back, why? As for the scabs, Fu*k em.


Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

Does anyone know if it is possible for a buyout from the pension? Like cashout?
Thanks!


Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

A true SCAB among SCABS. The stories we could tell. My favorite is, pulling a diesel push tug (green cap) , up to a gasoline pump (red cap?) , and topping of the radiator.


Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

Not for nothing the only reason I did not get a layoff, subsequent six month severance, and then a generous six months of unemployment was my AGE. My AGE and resultant seniority caused me to be one of the last AMFA techs August of 2005. I was walked off the property, received no generous severance, and was denied unemployment for sixteen months because of my age. Fourteen months later the red ass offered me one third of the severance younger employee's received, again my age was the culprit. Damn it Delta stop discriminating against me because of my age. Give me a chance, NWA never did.

Submission date ~ 09-2-2010

Looking at that guy I think of Arizona.


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

I posted the article about the young Marines folks asking for cards and letters. If you can please forward the article to others. I figure it's the least we can do after that kid took four bullets for us. Love to see him get a mountain of cards.


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

While I do sympathize with you because it was no easy thing for any of us to lose our jobs (I was 52 with 25 years at nwa) Most of us have moved on. First of all your an honorable and that must mean something to you or you would have crossed. If your woman left you for more money she wasn't worth anything in the first place. There are jobs and other careers out there. Crawling into a bottle will not help you achieve the results you desire. It breaks my heart to hear stories of the honorable suffering because of what those bastards did to us but I made up my mind from day one that I would not let them destroy me. Do I wish I had my job back? Hell yes but that isn't going to happen. I work much harder at my new job but the money is the same as when I left nwa. But my hours suck and so does many other things about it but there are many good things and that is what I focus on. I wish you the best and I do feel for you but you won't get anywhere in life by drinking and feeling sorry for yourself. You had what it takes to become an airline mechanic and I'm sure you have what it takes to find somewhere in life that will bring you fulfillment and happiness. All my best wises to you.


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

Good job Johnny!
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2010-09-01-delta-regional-jets-cincinnati_N.htm

Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

Jack Daniels 5 year Ann.
message ~
God Bless the man that fell apart after the strike. Just wanted to let you know you were not alone. I think very few of us have it as great as we did. I will make this short, but hope you can get back on your feet. Take Care!


This Honorable would like to second the motion. Take care. God speed.  444


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

There are some honorable that got hired at Deltas Comair 3-4 years ago. I see that Delta will be reducing your fleet by half and laying off maybe half your work force by 2012 and it looks like you will also be bought out by some nonunion regional carrier! I hate to hear this bad news just like for the Amfa Mesaba Mechanics-the future looks pretty bleak for those of you who stayed in aviation. I do wish the honorable at these airlines the best of luck but I think it is a fat chance that you will have a good paying career in the future. I also think that odds are slim that you will be able to have a union drive and win union representation but at least I hope some of you try to win those non union Mechanics over at Mesaba and if another non union regional buys you out at Comair. I also hope that some of you have gone back to school and studied for another career in case the axe falls again.
I know a honorable person, T.S. that works for Delta Comair. Maybe you can give us an update about your company?
Maybe some of you could apply for Delta jobs if you were on the recall list since Delta is hiring Mechanics. You probably could get hired since you already work for Delta and stay away from scab hubs like MSP and DTW since you would probably be stuck on third shift with mostly unhappy replacement scabs!



Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

Can any honorable on the inside verify it true about Scab Mike Lang (scabbing-yes), having cancer? and resigning from scabair Delta? It does not surprise me if he does have liver cancer due to too much exposure to paint at NWA over several years. I noticed him several times over the years not ever using a respirator while spraying paint especially -Red Paint- that contained lead! I heard he was in the Composite Shop, probably sniffing resin, after he scabbed his job in 2005. If this is true was it worth scabbing Mike!?


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

I see that King Dicks Delta Airlines is in full swing again and just gave Dr Bendoraitus, "Little Dick" orders to start surgery on Comair! Dr John-not the singer -"Bendover ait Ass" (former NWA maintenance VP, former NWA Comp ASS-president, current Comair president) said Delta gave orders to start dumping ALL 50 seat CRJs along with at least half of the 2,500 workforce! This cut will blah, blah, blah ,"Primarily LOWER MAINTENANCE EXPENSES as Comair leases the aircraft through Delta". There will only be 44 CRJ 700-900 by 2012."The carrier said it also will work with its unions (IAM aircraft mechanics) to secure more competitive agreements-(lower wages and benefits until Comair is sold to another regional carrier-Skywest,, Pinnacle -NON UNION-) and the remaining smaller union forces are dumped at Comair just like Mesaba!)
Delta will get rid of 53 of its oldest planes by 2012, said Kristin Baur-(Hmmm is this the- head chopper-Chris Baur from NWA Scabair-now converted to a female?).
Just another example about being in the Aviation field not a great career move for most people as a once great paying career with good benefits gets chopped up by a group of GREEDY executives- treating a highly skilled once proud profession like crap! Thanks to the scab bastxrds, outsourcing and making it easy to get a A and P, R and E license lower skilled employees -some of them can not even speak English- but are willing to work Cheap! It may be just a matter of time before planes might start falling out of the sky due to too many low skilled non caring airline maintenance workers. Then maybe aircraft maintenance will once again be looked at as a more professional and valuable career.


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

Ya gotta know this guy didn't have much going on in life. That BO that another poster talked about was the smell that many scabs have. Anyone with such lack of self respect certainly doesn't bother taking a bath.

Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

I apologize, I sent a posting tiled Re: to the "guy that doesn't get it". It was meant to be addressed to the Individual that Originally submitted a posting under the Title "Hyperbole". While I'm here, This is for that Individual that posted under the title "Hyperbole".

You seem to buy into the illusion that airplanes are well maintained even with scabs working them. There is a big difference in the skill level with replacement workers and those that struck at Northwest. The people that crossed the line, have minimum skills, just enough to be able to get the airplane pushed off the gate. I again will give you myself as an example, I got hired right away by another major carrier and after only two months, with my previous experience and qualification, became a lead technician and could have moved up to other supervisory position if I chose to. Although I have worked for Northwest for a less than 10 years. I have been in the major airline business since 1979.

So, I ask you, what your comfort level is, when you get on an airplane knowing I did the work last night. As opposed to someone who had just received training on that aircraft a few months ago to replace striking workers?

There is always those sharp "pencils" that management uses. 


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

When I hear Delta referred to as the Delta family or the New Delta, it brings to mind the Lloyd Bentsen/Dan Quayle debate where Bentsen told the idiot buffoon rich boy Quayle that he was no Jack Kennedy.
I say this to Delta and all Deltoids: I knew Delta Airlines, you are Delta in name only, you are no Delta Airline.


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

He worked the test cell/ FEA MSP. Someone earlier posted he looked scary. Well he sure proved he was devious.


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

I don't want Delta to hire me ever. I don't NEED Delta for anything. It's all about the NEED. Isn't that right scabs?


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

The general public will never understand our situation, because they never got to do that job they had dreamed about as a kid. They can't wait to find something else. Their jobs suck! They gave up during the so-called education process. How pathetic is it to end up staring at a computer doing data entry for 8 hours a day, or similar paperwork. Maybe they could con the public into buying their companies junk. We had a dream to work on the cool stuff, the business majors with no abilities have turned industry into a graveyard of slave labor income. Aviation wasn't always fun work, but it was unique.


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

The shooting story is past. I live in the Atlanta area. I am guessing that the Delta PR Dept. told the local news outlets and the AJC, stop reporting on this story. Yes they do have that control.

The control falls on those that have the advertising dollars. 

Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

God Bless the man that fell apart after the strike. Just wanted to let you know you were not alone. I think very few of us have it as great as we did. I will make this short, but hope you can get back on your feet. Take Care!


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

I heard a "rumor" that a lawyer in DTW is working w/some guys out there to see about changing that...

By the time that is resolved, Delta will be owned by our govt just like GM. Best o luk


Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

Scab Wayne Morse is another MSP Engine shop POS. Work with this asshole for years and it was Hell cause he always had a bad case of B.O. It was he Never took a shower! He smelled like sh*t now he is a POS SCAB FOR LIFE!!! My family would never let me in the house if I was a SCAB. Wayne's family is most likely just LOW CLASS WHITE TRASH with WAYNE as a SCAB. What a loser!



Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

Guess there are not that many jobs out there. Getting lawyer to fight to get back into something you hate. Still don't get why some can't grow a set and get on with life. If I can do it anyone can. There are jobs just move.

Submission date ~ 09-1-2010

Mr Webmaster, is there a way we can do a special page for scabs titled "separated at birth". If we see a good photo we could send it to you. I found a good one of Uncle Fester that looks just like Wayne Morse and Tom Cox looks just like Pvt Spivey. How could we send them to you.

Sounds interesting.  Just send us both pictures, via our email address, and we will see if we can work something out. JPEG format works best. 


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

this video could very well be the life of a SCAB. Whose wife hates him as much as I do!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFJu8DCH_b0&feature=related


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Heard from someone on the inside that Mike was diagnosed with liver cancer. The doctors gave him two months to live. He was pulling the plug at Delta. Should have used the respirator they gave you Mike. All those years breathing paint fumes finally got to him.


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

hey man - i ain't the shell answer man but I do have 2 ears so no waiting ! if you need to talk - (952)***-****. I've been there, done that got the damned tee shirt.

Sorry, we don't give out personal telephone numbers on this site. 


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

The "rumors" are true. If you took a severance package from NWA - Delta will not hire you. I heard a "rumor" that a lawyer in DTW is working w/some guys out there to see about changing that. That's all I know right now.


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Wish I had gone back to school while I worked at NWA. Would have made the transition easier. SCABS damn you all to hell! If it weren't for the 800 SCABS that crossed out picket lines, we would have won the strike. I would be making $40/hr with 6 weeks paid vacation, flying to Bangkok partying with the beautiful shims. Damn you Scabs to hell.

Sorry pal, you got more problems than we can fix. Yogi.


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Something about that "details are sketchy" remark webmaster.


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

I bet the cleanup crews had to look real hard to make sure that he did not leave his other rat pack behind. They checked for a rat by the name of Andy," Robbers" Roberts and Julian Showers. There were some smaller rat bxstard scabs that were still camped out at old Steelins home like Hobos. The rat scabs currently Delta scabs were living there and still eating scab crumbs of cheese that Dougy and his rat pack threw them -now that Dougy Steenland pulled up stakes the former exNWA/Delta rats will have to scatter and find new homes!


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

So mr. webman, A change in format. You deserve a chance to give your two cents. My question for you is how long do you think delta will go before bankruptcy? I know your not a financial guru or psychic but just wondering your thoughts. I give delta 36 months before the collapse begins with the same crisis that plagued nwa, ie paycuts/layoffs. So what do you think?

Like you said, we are no financial guru's.  But, we do predict that when the gas prices skyrocket again, and no doubt they will, the pressure of being number 2 will force them to file bankruptcy again.  For you see, bankruptcy is a business tool to shed debt, according to the airlines. 


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

It will be interesting to know if the Deltoid that woman was looking for is an old NW scab. I am unfortunate enough to know a couple scabs in the Atlanta area that are little more than sexual predators. Anything to scratch that "carnal itch", and they are proud of it. Of course it came as no surprise that anyone that couldn't keep his pecker in his pocket would become a scab. i.e. total lack of faithfulness, integrity, morals, trust, character, everything a scab possesses a lack of. It will be interesting to hear who she was a huntn, if it ever comes out.


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

"Mr WebMaster, I respectfully request that you post any new updates on information on the killing at the Atlanta airport. Thank you!"

The Yahoo aviation business site is a pretty good source for up to date info:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/news/770.html


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

While your comments may sound lucid and articulate what they lack is experience.

Until you have LIVED through what has been done to us as a group you can never ever understand it. Though you may read your books and talk to people it's not the same as having lived through it. It is like a terrible car crash that has killed your loved ones and changed your life forever. Time may move on and the scars might not be as evident but they are scars you will carry for the rest of your life. Until you've lived through such a thing you can never ever really know the impact or grasp even a 10th of it.


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Which company and union are going to have a possible strike in Dallas Texas in October 2010? Will it be AA?


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Al Honey, Jim and Wanda Rinsem, along with Pete and Peggy Swartz want to come over Saturday night and watch some of your DVD collection. They really want to watch your Midget Porno, vol. 1-6. Do you think you would have time to scrape the ceiling off before the party? Love, Nipples


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Man, I sure don't miss that place.



Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

I'm here not to call you pro -scab or trump your comments. But, since you have said that you've never work the airlines, then I will try to tell you why some people cannot let go and they keep posting here. I can only speak for myself and hopefully you will have a better understanding of what you read on this site after you read my posting.

The Airlines are a unique work environment, when you start out you work alongside other new guys on midnights for maybe a good portion of your first 7 seven years. When you clock out of work sometimes your interaction with your co workers does not stop after you punch out. Especially when there is camaraderie involved, who do you most likely end up hunting or fishing after you get off the midnight shift with wed/thu off. It's the others who also work the same shift. This doesn't stop there. When you go out with your family you sometimes end up running into the other guy's family and eventually a bond between families takes place. The wives become friends with each and so's the rest of each others families.

My buddy crossed the picket line. He was a very good friend of mine. I have always counted on him for help at home and getting rides to and from the airport when I was commuting to work in Minneapolis and later on Detroit. I did the same for him when he also ended up commuting for a short period of time.
His son grew up calling me "Uncle". I remember one Christmas eve still over at his house, trying to wire his car for video hook up as a Christmas morning gift for his son while food and family waited for me over at my house to celebrate the holiday.
When he crossed the picket line, I not only lost a co worker but also a very good friend. I do not speak to him or his family anymore. It's like having someone die in your family.
When you go to church and you see him there it takes a great amount of restraint to keep from cursing him out or strangling him.

This is just one story. There are a lot of stories like this that you will not hear about. It doesn't have anything to do with the union or the skill level of scabs. Other jobs in other industries you get over it quickly and you move on hence the term "it's just a job". As is probably the case with your job. Airline jobs are a little more different than other jobs.
So, I hope this enlightens you a little bit.


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Wayne Morse...SCAB of the day. Never met him and I thank my Lord and Savior for that. That dude looks evil.

Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Mr WebMaster, I respectfully request that you post any new updates on information on the killing at the Atlanta airport. Thank you!

Knowing the media, as we do, we will probably not see anymore information on that particular episode. 


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Look at that guy. He had many years at Redass, looks like he would have retired rather than turn on his friends and coworkers. Jessshh

Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

The pic of scab of the day is NOT David Laatsch. Don't know his name but it is not David Laatsch.

Our apologies, it has been corrected.  It is actually Wayne Morse. 

Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

I look at his picture and immediately think of Christopher Lloyd as Uncle Fester in the Adams Family movie.

Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Let's see if we understand this. A woman with a loaded gun seeking a Delta employee on or adjacent to Delta property is killed, yet a Delta spokesperson claims this has nothing to do with Delta.
Some people would consider this as connected to and representative of the quality of today's Delta family. A woman with a gun looking for one of Delta's family members put other family members in harms way. Such is life at the new Delta.

If anyone reads the article, it notes that it was a domestic issue that led to the shooting.  At least at this point in the investigation.  But, how can they determine that this has nothing to do with their airline, if the investigation is ongoing and not conclusive? 


Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

It just keeps getting better at the Delta family. I'm glad operations weren't affected.

If anyone reads the article, it notes that it was a domestic issue that led to the shooting.  At least at this point in the investigation.  But, how can they determine that this has nothing to do with their airline, if the investigation is ongoing and not conclusive? 

Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Looks like all is not well in the "family"

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/woman-shot-killed-outside-602698.html

Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Sorry bout that. It's in October, not April

Submission date ~ 08-31-2010

Kookie made SCAB of the day. His proudest moment, right behind the day he found a burned out filament on a DC-9 landing light and gave an R&E a job.


Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

"Doug Stealin has his house in MSP up for sale"

Good riddance. Steenland is a very evil, evil person with blood on his hands. The twin cities is a better place without him living here. He and his minions pulled off the greatest corporate robbery in Minnesota's history and destroyed the lives of the real Northwest Airlines workers. A real pig.

and.... he is on the B.O.D. at Delta. 


Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

deer ser english is my second languages neber bin to kolege i gut hard tym to use my komputer speling chx but i assure yo dat i can spell STUPID da right way...can u join me to go back to elimentary to lern moor in spilling...you have a good day scab....ha ha ha ha...


Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

Which company is recruiting scabs for a Upcoming strike in Dallas in April? Which union? I hope they can prepare their members and negotiate with whatever company to avoid more union member jobs lost to replacement and other SCABS!
I HOPE it is not another Airline!? Could this be American Airlines / TWU Union? I know just the other week Union membiz rejected the contract at American Airlines.


Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

I'm thinking of the ignorant hick from Atlanta who bragged about setting birds on fire with lighter fluid when he was a kid. And then too, there was your neighbors dog who you didn't like so you fed it anti-freeze, prestone burgers you called them. Someday ask a Vet how terrible a way that is for a dog to die you SOB! Oh yes, the military didn't take you because of your bad feet, yet you never asked them what was wrong with your feet. Most men would have wanted to know. (sounds like you were making up excuses even then) In hindsight I can see now we had a future scab among us. You always were a stoolie and suckass, a brown noser. Most of the Atlanta boys never liked you let alone trusted you. You were known to be a rat long before the strike. Most guys never wanted you on their crew, they knew you couldn't be trusted. You are the white trash many said you are, and you are too ignorant to know it. In my opinion you carry the mark of Cain.



Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

Well it has been over 5 years since we went out on strike. It might have been an easy transition for some of the "Honorable" that post here. But, has been a terrible experience for me. I had just turned 53 years old when the strike was called. Had worked as an A&P and R&E for over 30 years at NWA.
I really enjoyed my career at NWA, had many great coworkers and a few really good managers. Really enjoyed the wages and benefits, especially the paid vacation and flight benefits. Thought I would retire from NWA. But that was not to be, guess I was lucky to work there as long as I did.

I watched the mechanic ranks grow from 1800 to 8000. Then I stood and watched thousands of my mechanic brothers and sisters walk out the door because they were laid off. Looking back, I wish we made a stand back then.

Have not been able to find a good job since the strike, my house went into foreclosure, my wife left me for a man that had a good paying career, only see my kids a few days a month. Started drinking Jack Daniels every night after my lousy shift at my lousy job, then I got a DWI. WTF will happen next.

Wish I had gone back to school while I worked at NWA. Would have made the transition easier. SCABS damn you all to hell! If it weren't for the 800 SCABS that crossed out picket lines, we would have won the strike. I would be making $40/hr with 6 weeks paid vacation, flying to Bangkok partying with the beautiful shims. Damn you Scabs to hell.


Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

subject ~ Jeff Certo
message ~
Bumped to Dtw just before the strike. From day one Certo was too cool for me he thought. He just stood there when I had to changed a tire on a thru flight. To lazy to set the brakes and release them and to get the log book ready. I wonder if he ever got dirty. I did enjoy watching him at the hall and trying to talk to people . I wonder if he ever figured out it was him not them ,that they didn't want his company . You are a legend in your mind Certo

Squirto came to DTW in 93 or 94 due to a "date rape" charge against him in MSP? The reason he didn't help you with the tire is because he didn't know how to change a tire himself, nor was he able to set and release the brakes. As for getting the logbook ready,.....well you may as well just ask one of the boarding passengers to do it. Jeff Certo-fiable was one of the most useless leads ever.


Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

ROTFLMAO......hahahahahaha.......your reaping what you've sow'en


Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

Just heard on the news . Deadly shooting at Delta in Atlanta. Check CBS Atlanta may have more news. 2:40 in the afternoon.



Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

subject ~ jobs at delta
message ~
I see there are 48 open mechanics positions at msp. If delta is so great why do they have to list on the unemployment web site. A really good company doesn't have to look for workers.

That may be required of them.

You are so right. In an economy as weak as this one, their in basket should be overflowing with candidates to fill any available job openings, but alas the miscreant mismanagement from the old redass can run but they can't hide, and A&Ps with any real talent won't be applying that's for sure. That's obvious from reading the letter concerning the non-compliance issues at NWA on the home page, if you were an A&P would you want to risk your tickets or worse for little dick, little andy roberts, little stevie gorman, and the rest of the ex-nwa mismanagement losers.

Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

I'm a 444 now living in Ca. Just wanted to let everyone know there's a new scab recruiting effort taking place for an up-coming strike in April in Dallas. Some sh*t head called me Friday night and promised me the friggin stars. Said starting pay is 45/ hr. Made me sick to listen to the con. Maybe some of Dicks' scabs will try and move on to somewhere they aren't publicly hated yet


Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

THE FIGHTING MACHINISTS So the old NWA IAM ramper SCABS are still paying dues? And the Delta rampers are not? It pays to be a SCAB UNION, I guess.


Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

I have obtained 5 of 6 only thing holding me back is my kids are not college age. I no longer call scab-air home either

Submission date ~ 08-30-2010

Job Snapshot Air Wisconsin
Location:
6170 Miller Store Rd
Norfolk, VA 23502 (map it!Map it! )

Loading Map...
Base Pay:
$16,470 - $17,170 /Year
Employee Type:
Full-Time
Industry:
Airline - Aviation
Transportation
Travel
Manages Others:
No
Job Type:
Skilled Labor - Trades
Transportation
Education:
High School
Experience:
At least 1 year(s)
Travel:
Negligible
Post Date:
8/26/2010
Contact Information
Ref ID:
196

Where do I sign up? I think they pay more at McDonalds!!!


Submission date ~ 08-29-2010

I think it is great that the replacement scabs want "organized". They are treated like second class citizens when compared to the evil crossovers. This treatment after all they had done to "SAVE" NWA. (A NW weasel stated they saved NW) The crossovers never liked the scab replacements. Crossovers felt it was ok for them to cross-over but hated the scabs that were already in there waiting for them. After all, they were OK! It was ok for them to stab their friends and coworkers in the back. As for the few honorable, NO scab wanted them back. There might be hell to pay if too many honorable came back. A part of a scabs brain be it crossover or replacement releases a chemical that allows them to justify being a scab without any penalty of conscience. It is sad that the scabs, replacement and crossover trash, don't like one another. They have so much in common. I wish the replacement scabs well in their secret card drive effort, Delta being the scab magnet that it is should treat them with more respect.

Submission date ~ 08-29-2010

Retire from SCABair. Did that!
Draw pension. Doing that!
Find a better job. Did that!
Live a good life. Doing that!


Have fun trashing SCABs. DOING THAT AND LOVING IT.


Submission date ~ 08-29-2010

Oooh-kay, if you lower your standards, put your wife to work and take a second job, you can still be middle class. What a bunch of bs. Thanks to companies like NW creating a template on how to get rid of a well paid workforce and both local and federal governments not interested in stopping global outsourcing, we have seen the elimination of the true middle class. I have seen a lot of people, not just ex-nw folks, slide way backwards, losing homes, jobs, insurance etc. in the last 5 years. This is why we still hate scabs, they helped create this by not thinking about more than themselves. Your comment to the young student about not seeing the big picture is right on the mark.


Submission date ~ 08-29-2010

Brad Hanson! Brad Hanson was lucky enough to be collecting a full paycheck when we went out on strike. This was fortunate for Hanson because he could play striker and collect full pay at the same time. For someone as sneaky as Hanson it was a real stroke of luck. Then his OJI money ran out, soon to follow were his balls and integrity. Hanson was just with us because he was getting a paycheck. His honor lasted only as long as he was being paid. After that, he turned traitor and joined the scabs for anything the company would give him...


Submission date ~ 08-29-2010

am not a mechanic or airline industry worker, but I do know about this site because of an uncle involved in the NWA strike. I just wanted to say that, although I can sympathize with some of what happened to you guys, the exaggerations here are just off the charts. You do not like the people who crossed your picket line, I understand that. But to dismiss every one of them as completely no talent hacks is just ridiculous. The planes were kept flying during the NWA strike. That is all that matters when it comes to keeping an airline functional, and that's why your union lost the strike. Logic then dictates that most "scabs" must have been skilled enough to keep things going without any great mishaps. If they had no skills, they would have been fired, if not by NWA, then certainly by Delta. Companies don't pay people to do nothing or to do things poorly in a recession. You may be justified in saying they're dishonorable, but it looks goofy to say every scab is worthless and unable to do anything at all on a plane.

Secondly, I don't agree with the tone of the college kid who posted here. But I do agree that many of you should try to let go of your disgust about what happened and move on. My Uncle didn't cross the picket line or anything, but he did feel the union really mismanaged things and wanted no part of the fiasco that took place. He just wanted to get out and move on with his life.

I'm about ten years older than the college student, but I hope you won't trump my comments up to ignorant youth or some sort of pro-Scab bias. I won't be crossing a picket line someday either. Thankfully, I'm in an industry without unions, and even I weren't, I think unions are going the way of the Medieval craft guilds. You can argue whether or not this is good or bad, but it's hard to dispute that they will be extremely rare by 2050 the way things are going.

Well as webmaster said I don't think you get it. I am doing quite well actually and making more than any Ex NW or current DL mechanic. But I will never forgive and never forget what I and my fellow honorable went through. I had 17 yrs at the time of the strike this was not ever about holding out for a better wage. I was in the 53% of mechanics that would be out of a job if we had agreed to their terms and it was planned that way to ensure we would have no option but to strike. It was a fight for survival. No matter what your feelings for unions are this was a planned attack by NWA to break the union. They planned this years in advance and spent millions training replacements. Also no matter what you think these scab replacements were the bottom of the barrel and not too surprising a lot have been fired before and after the merger. Add to that there were major conflicts of interest between the Bush administration the NMB and NWA all of which played well in favor of NWA. Just because airplanes didn't come crashing down means nothing. Anyone in aviation knows a mechanic mistake can sometimes take years to show up JAL 123 the 747 that crashed in Japan is a perfect example. A poor maintenance repair on a bulkhead blew 7 years after that faulty repair. Not to mention there WERE problems there they were covered up. I have moved on and not only got a great job but help get a lot of honorable brothers and friends in as well. But a lot did not fair as well a lot lost houses, families, and a couple took their own life and others had their life cut short due to the stress. No sir I will never let it go just for the very reasons I just stated. A few scab former swissport workers have infiltrated the ranks at my company and they know who they are and myself and fellow honorable make life very uncomfortable for them and they are well aware why.


Submission date ~ 08-29-2010

Bumped to Dtw just before the strike. From day one Certo was too cool for me he thought. He just stood there when I had to changed a tire on a thru flight. To lazy to set the brakes and release them and to get the log book ready. I wonder if he ever got dirty. I did enjoy watching him at the hall and trying to talk to people . I wonder if he ever figured out it was him not them ,that they didn't want his company . You are a legend in your mind Certo.


Submission date ~ 08-29-2010

I knew him in Atl. Kind of played with his head to see what he was about. Found out he was a spineless person who talked the talk to make himself feel like he was big and bad. I'm the one who had to fix 90% of your work cause you knew it all but knew little.


Submission date ~ 08-29-2010

Gee, imagine that, it appears Doug Stealin has his house in MSP up for sale, his work must be done (what has he been up to these days?). Calwell Banker MLS listing *********** (public information), see how the other half lived while we were losing our jobs. I still remember driving past his house on the Harley (loud pipes) and pissing off the two goons he had parked in his driveway during the strike, that was fun.


Submission date ~ 08-29-2010

Why do people like you who never worked on an aircraft, never worked for an airlines, does not know the people involved, somehow know everything about what happen just because they know someone who may or may not have had some small part. You talk about things that you can not know. I was there and can tell you that most of what you claim to know is 100% wrong. You get your info from someone who only tells his side of what he thinks happen.


Submission date ~ 08-29-2010

Web-miester,

You obviously have no idea who I am because my ISP changes with the different jobs that I have taken since 2005. Thankfully, my skills and education have provided me with a considerable income since then, and the only things I've lost were seniority and retirement benefits. I am an honorable 444 that abhors the SCABS that were the ruin of our fight to retain jobs for the lower seniority mechanics/engineers. I thank you so much for providing this web-site. I visit it every day.
Frank Parris will never R.I.P. and Tom Clements has to live with himself forever.

We can not determine who anybody is when they post anonymous comments in this forum.  And, thank you for the kind words. 


Submission date ~ 08-29-2010

I wish the people at Ford well and hope their jobs stay in Minnesota. With that said I want to say Plenty had the opportunity to save thousands of NW jobs in Minnesota and Michigan but didn't answer the phone when we called for help. No doubt in my mind that he was NW's and Steenland's "kid". I sure hope the guy doesn't run for President.

Submission date ~ 08-29-2010